Transcript CNN International interview with Nigeria's President Obasanjo and USAfricaonline.com Publisher Chido Nwangwu on Democracy and Security Issues

 

Africa's debt burden, poverty, and the G 8 countries

By KC PRINCE ASAGWARA, Ph.D

Special to USAfricaonline.com, USAfrica The Newspaper, Houston
CLASS magazine, The Black Business Journal  

August 10, 2005: Recently, Africa's debt burden, its relief and the general poverty in Africa took center stage. To all those who have cared to know about Africa, she is a basket case. That accounts for why whatever economic aid or assistance the West extends to Africa becomes news worthy. Hence the debt cancellation for the world's poorest 18 countries &endash; 14 of which are in Africa has once again put Africa in the sport light of mostly bad news.  

The relief of Africa's debt burden through debt forgiveness by the members of G 8 is commendable. As my people, the Igbos of Nigeria would say, when you give kudos to a man for the much he has done, he would likely do more. So to the G 8 members, I say thank you. 

Africa not entirely responsible for its debt burden 

But if the truth must be said, Africa's debt burden and poverty are not entirely of the making of African countries. Africa is blessed with mineral resources of all types. But the West for development of the West harvests most of Africa's mineral resources. The late Walter Rodney, a Black Guyanese scholar wrote his popular and controversial book in 1980, "How Europe Underdeveloped
Africa." In that book, Mr. Rodney analyzed how Europe's appropriation of Africa's human and mineral resources for centuries, led to the continent's loss of power and economic impoverishment. Today, the



situation has not changed. If anything, the Western countries' appropriation of Africa's mineral resources and underdevelopment of Africa continues unabated. In fact, some believe that it has gotten worse. Granting Africa debt relief or giving them financial aid amounts to giving a needy person meal for the day. Tomorrow, he/she will still be hungry and come back for more. But if you teach a hungry person how to provide his or her own food, he/she will feed self for life. I want to believe that the West is serious and honest in their proclaimed effort to assist Africa out of the doldrums of poverty. If they are, they should begin by addressing the underlying problems that put her in the basket case situation. Otherwise, any amount of aid given to African countries would end as an effort in futility. Please, let me explain. 

Even if the total debt burden those African countries owe the West is written off, and aid to Africa is increased to $50 billion a year by 2010, and $75 billion a year by 2015 as being advocated in some quarters, Africa's poverty may still not be solved. Serious commitment from the West to help Africa become wealthy would demand the West giving up most of the strategic economic advantages it has had on Africa since coming into contact with African countries.  

The bitter pill prescribed for Africa 

We know that for every one dollar that the West gives to Africa as aids it takes back $50.00 in return. For instance, in the 1990s the West, through the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, prescribed economic policies for African countries that included the dismantling of import tariffs on Western products, stopping subsidization of the local products, and opening their markets for investment and trade relations. Most African countries adopted the economic reform policies recommended by the IMF and World Bank, and instituted the Structural Adjustment Program (SAP). But the West failed to live up to their own part of the bargain to invest in African countries. African countries are being told that political instability in your countries makes it difficult for the West to seriously consider investing there. But the unstable political situation was there in the first place before the West talked them into instituting SAP. Juxtapose this demand to the unstable political climate in the former Eastern European countries where the West continues to invest, you will begin to wonder if the West is serious in assisting Africa fight and rid itself of poverty. 

Western farmers heavily subsidized 

The West continues to subsidize both their agricultural and industrial products, which creates an over abundance of products that make it difficult for African producers to compete or sell their products at a gainful price. For instance, Mozambique produces the cheapest sugar in the world, between $75 and $100 a ton, to Europe's $395 a ton. On the surface, Mozambique farmers and sugar producers should reap enormous profits from their labor. But this is not the case because the European Union through its Common Agricultural policy (CAP) subsidizes its sugar producers to the tune of $675 million a year. The net effect is that Mozambique cannot sell its surplus sugar in any market in Europe, while Europe's surplus is dumped onto African countries' markets, thereby impoverishing Mozambique.  

Canada subsidizes farmers and agricultural products. According to Urban Renaissance Institute, from 1991 to 2000, the federal and provincial governments of Canada supplied an average of $3.76 in agricultural subsidies for every $1.00 earned by Canadian farmers. The amount of subsidy varies from province to province. For Ontario farmers for example, they were subsidized $6.60 for every $1 farm profit. This did not include the subsidy that farmers received through property tax concessions that ranged from $70 million to almost $1.1 billion, depending on the calculation method used in a particular year. In 2002, Manitoba and Saskatchewan increased the use of Ethanol blended fuel and gasoline. Ethanol is a derivative from fermented grain, and has been adjudged expensive to produce. The millions of dollars that it costs oil and gas companies to produce ethanol are being subsidized by both provincial governments. Canadian farmers may argue that they are less subsidized compared to the EU agro-industry or U.S. farmers. The fact remains that subsidy at any level hurts African countries and leads to unfair trade practices between the West and Africa.  

 

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In 2002, President Bush signed into law the Farm Bill that provided federal payments to farmers to the tune of $83 billion over 10 years (2002-2012). Many, including African countries condemned this U.S. government action. Business Day, Johannesburg, May 21, 2002 reported that South Africa's farmers and agricultural processing industries were incensed by increased U.S. government support to American farmers. Reuters News Service, at that time reported that African commentators condemned the new U.S. law that protected the U.S. farm industry because it created a hurdle in the marketing of African products in U.S. markets. The above are just examples. G8 member countries subsidize their agricultural, farm and logging industry products, including those harvested from the oceans, contrary to the doctrine of free trade and open markets they recommend for African countries. Nothing can be more hypocritical. Equitable bilateral trade relations are what African countries need to solve their economic problems and not aid. For every dollar given by the West to Africa in the form of aid, ten dollars is taken back from African countries by way of unfair trade practices. How then can Africa not be mired in debt and poverty? The West's subsidy of their farm and agricultural products, fishing and logging industry, rigid trade barriers and tariffs that prevent African countries from accessing the Western markets should be removed. 

Promote democracy and the rule of law 

Apart from unfair trade practices, the West can assist Africa solve its economic problems by promoting democracy and the rule of law in Africa as it is practiced in the West. In the West, anyone that is an accessory to theft or a recipient of stolen goods is as guilty as the one that stole it. Corrupt African leaders steal and loot their treasuries and deposit them in Western banks. Many Western countries know this. For instance, the late President of Nigeria, General Sani Abacha stole $-5 billion in five years. In the past four decades, Nigeria's rulers stole and deposited most of their $500-billion loot in European and American banks. Since 1999 that President Obasanjo came to power in Nigeria, all his effort to repatriate stolen money deposited in Western banks have been stalled by one legal obstacle or the other imposed by the Western governments in whose banks these money are deposited. At some point, President Obasanjo lamented openly and wondered how the West can claim to be serious in addressing Africa's poverty and economic problems when they are uncooperative in returning stolen money to its rightful owners.  

In mineral rich nation of the Democratic Republic of Congo, the late dictator, Mobutu Sesse Seko collected $5-billion in foreign debt and looted $4-billion of it for himself which he deposited in Swiss banks. The Democratic Republic of Congo's attempts to retrieve the nation's stolen money from Swiss banks has so far, been unsuccessful for the same reason as that of Nigeria. Returning Nigeria stolen money would wipe of its foreign debt and still leave more for its economic growth. The same applies to the Democratic Republic of Congo. 

Address economic crimes 

Economic crimes are as bad as political crimes or war crimes. The West would be assisting African countries in their search for economic self-sufficiency, if the names of corrupt public officials that have stashed sums of money (any amount of money stolen from public treasury by a public officer is lots of money) in Western banks are released or made public so that Africans would know the economic blood suckers they have masquerading as leaders.  

The jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice at The Hague should be expanded to include economic crimes. African leaders that stole or looted their treasury should be charged to this Court and tried for economic sabotage, and if convicted, should be sent to jail with stiff fines in addition. If this is done, public officials would likely see the need for good governance in their countries by way of using the people's money to establish educational and health development projects, economic empowerment and job creation, road construction and maintenance, agricultural development and adequate food supply, good drinking water supply and effective drainage system for the people. These are needs that are basics in the West, and for which Africans are running away from their countries. In the end, the West will have less number of African economic refugees knocking down the doors of their embassies for asylum and refugee status. This will also see a reduction in your social problems as you often blame immigrants for these flaws in your societies. 

The West should not recognize corrupt or illegitimate African governments 

The West should refuse to recognize or do business with all corrupt African leaders or those leaders that came to power through the barrel of the gun. The reason why Africa has been inundated with coups d' etat is the West's willingness to embrace military regimes, often corrupt that emerges in African countries. It is a known fact that no leader of an African country emerges unless he receives a wink and a nod from the West, particularly, the USA, Britain and France. And often, those are leaders willing to play ball with them or act the scripts written by them. The West should stop determining and teleguiding Africa's political leaders. This is undemocratic and serves only the interest of the West. The West should stop supplying arms and ammunitions to warring parties in internal and inter-country conflicts in African. The West cannot continue to do this and turn around to blame African countries for their in ability to stop intra or inter-country wars. The above are fundamental problems in the way the West relates to Africa and her economic problems. And unless those fundamental problems are addressed and corrected, Africa will continue to be a basket case for the West. 
Dr. Asagwara is Canada-based contributing editor of USAfricaonline.com and CLASS magazine and global e-list IgboEvents. He wrote this essay exclusively for the USAfrica multimedia networks


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